Dungeons and Dragons 4.0: Why do I hate it so much

[The Bubbling Dark]

Wizards can wear Fullplate Mail.

The Giant swings his club at the unsuspecting Wizard.
DM: 30 to hit!
Wizard: My AC is 37, miss
DM: You were surprised so you had ne DEX... the giant smasshes the wizard with his club and the blow glaces off. What are doing?
Wizard: I cast Lightening Bolt. 60dmg, is it dead.
DM: Its dead...

Wizards with Fullplate...

[Prince Hermes Kaladon IV]

I was a BEAST!!!! My AC was only 31. LOL Dont forget the ritual that let me walk around the world in two days.

[Admin]

AHHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

[Leetin McBeatin]

That is exactly why I never have played the system and never plan on it.

[Admin]

The system is WOW made into a tabletop yet not as dvoid of Roleplaying as the actuall World of Warcraft Tabletop game. Lame...

[Prince Hermes Kaladon IV]

4.0 is a video game but instead of buttons you just say you powers.

[The Bubbling Dark]

This place is dead today...

[Prince Hermes Kaladon IV]

VERY dead.

[Leetin McBeatin]

Morte

[Legendary]

Of course I have to be the evil one in the group. I liked a lot of things about 4.0. I liked the daily/encounter/at will ability process they had. I also liked the fact that characters could heal themselves a little bit. I also liked that you can sometimes get bonuses or special abilities when you're bloodied.

the thing I loved the most though, was that half dragons are a base race! THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Bubbling Dark]

Dungeons and Dragons 4.0 is obviously Wizards of the Coast attempt to step into the 21st century when short attention spans and need for instant gratification has turned players into toons that would rather blurt out a phrase in all out nerd fury and listen as the DM describes what moves and actions are unleashed. Old school D&D was about adventure and problem solving, new school D&D is about Megapower and explosions. They forgotten their roots.

Feats and powers were bad enough but its to the point where any class can cast spells from ritual spells! Even the mystery of magic has been removed, the magic items that player once adventured for are in the book right behind your normal equipment. System is for weak roleplayers that just want to wear armor and pretend to be adventurers. That's not D&D no matter what people say...

I think the idea of adding new playable races in the core book but lets not fool ourselves. Half-Dragons/Tieflings as a core race? These strange and awesome creatures are so common that player could easily roll one up. It appeals to some of us, myself included(Tieflings RULE!) but its more fan service for the toons and little more.

Note: Second wind is a great concept that allows players to fight through the pain and get back into the thick of things. I also like that a character progresses all the way to level 30 even though that progression represents getting more of those daily/encounter/at will abilities.

[Leetin McBeatin]

I think Wizards purchased DnD so thy can pirate its contents for its card game. They also see DnD as a business and only look at the number$.

You cant turn rollplaying into a corporate entity. it needs the love of its creaters and players.

[The Bubbling Dark]

As I continue to download old TSR modules and books I see more and more the wealth of material that was lost when Wizards of the Coast brought the name.

TSR
Dungeons and Dragons
Greyhawk
Ravenloft
Dragonlance
Forgotten Realms
Dark Sun
Spelljammers
Hollow World

Wizards of the Coast
Dungeons and Dragons
Forgotten Realms
Eberron(Awesome)

Panda bear in the forest... all is lost

[Leetin McBeatin]

I downloaded some Eberron books and skimmed through them. It seemed like a good source of information and ideas.

[The Bubbling Dark]

I sometimes find myself wishing I'd got into roleplaying ten years earlier when it caught my interests.